Islamophobes and imaginative empire building.

Interesting BBC radio 4 prog "News, More or Less" on the lies told by nazis of various kinds about muslim numbers in the UK, and European countries. There's a YouTube vid purporting to be from a muslim country saying that they will be ruling Europe by sheer weight of numbers within a couple of decades.

Leaving the bogus stats aside it has been found that the birthrates of immigrant populations tend towards the birthrates of the indigenous populations. So incoming muslims will have fewer children as they "acclimatise", which makes sense, for the motivations in truth are in part to have enough children to look after their parents in old age, and to continue the line, which are likely with fewer children in a healthier society with lower perinatal and infant mortality rates particularly.

I recall an argument with a young muslim from the Somali diaspora in Canada on C i F a couple of years ago.

He actually believed that they would be more fecund and potent than non muslims because of their mental agility as I understood it. This is the sort of nonsense which underpins the thoughts of Islamo-fascists, thoguh it is far more widespread than that.

Hokum, just as the claim that muslims here are all the same. Anyone who has known a few knows that, for example, they vary from those who attend mosque several times a day, to those who don't know where the local mosque is.

Objectifying all muslims like that is just nazi talk for a category of untermenschen.

Sunday 09 August
8:00pm - 8:30pm
BBC Radio 4

Tim Harford presents the magazine which looks at numbers everywhere, in the news, in politics and in life.

Disproving the Muslim Demographics sums Thanks Beeb, I'll try not to complain when it turns out your Breakfast presenters weren't listening at all carefully . . .

2009 - what is a nazi?

It is useful to examine the nomenclature used in the battle of words against the extreme right wing loons who have gained 2 MEPs in Britain. Thankfully they remain a tiny party, determined to puff themselves up. Not all that long ago an attendance sheet from one of their meetings was published as though it was a membership list - desperate indeed!

In my view Nazis are people who look for untermenschen as the guide to their political action.

Untermensch (German for under man, sub-man, sub-human; plural: Untermenschen) is a term fromNazi racial ideology used to describe "inferior people", especially "the masses from the East," that isJews, Gypsies, Slavs, and anyone else who was not an "Aryan" according to the contemporary Nazi race terminology. The German word Mensch literally means person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermenschen

Nowadays muslims are commonly the principal victims in the UK, often being victimised as though they were islamo-fascists, but blacks, gays and others are commonly treated as inferior in a  similar way.

The BNP's central thrust is to divide people in this way, they are nazis, as are some members of other right wing parties, including some bloggers and posters on the Dully Tele.